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Speaking at this year\u2019s Winter Vivaldi Forum, he addressed the relationship between politicians and church representatives, recalling his time as a bishop in Herzegovina and admitting that moving to serve in Germany brought him relief on this matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe first thing the church must do is separate from the emperor. The embrace between the state and the church is always to the church\u2019s disadvantage. I have always advocated for a mild tension in that relationship. We do not have to be enemies, but it is very important that there is a corrective\u2026 That embrace with emperors, presidents, governments\u2014it is not good. The church must be outside of that, but, on the other hand, be an example of proper conduct toward the state,\u201d Bishop Grigorije said in a conversation with Vladimir Vu\u010dkovi\u0107, held at Mokra Gora during the Winter Vivaldi Forum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vu\u010dkovi\u0107, as the moderator of this year\u2019s forum, chose an unusual \u201cLate Night\u201d format for the discussion with Bishop Grigorije, attended by around 200 forum participants, according to the magazine Biznis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The bishop also shared some of his impressions of life in Germany:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI have lived seven years in Germany and experienced several initial pleasant shocks. One of my friends is a judge in M\u00fcnster. He is Serbian, and his parents worked in a factory in Germany. He is young, wonderful, and has three children. He completed his doctorate in German tax law on Serbian tax law. And I naively asked him how Serbian tax law compares to German law, and he replied: Well, it\u2019s much better written. It\u2019s just not enforced.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He emphasized that differences among people are not bad, but divisions caused by differences are:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe must learn to converse with the principle in mind: I must not hurt his dignity. Freedom equals love, but freedom also equals responsibility. I fear that we have begun to see even people of the highest intellectual capacity converse in ways that fail to respect each other. That is dangerous; it is not Christian. If we wanted to start the recovery of our society, that would be the first painful point. Our pain is that we do not respect others as ourselves.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the same topic, the bishop mentioned the tragic case of the canopy collapse in Novi Sad:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe do not take care of people. Suddenly, a canopy falls on someone\u2019s head, and we act surprised. We should have known this would happen if we do not consider the person more important than GDP, or this or that. The person is the most important. What is all of this worth if you kill a human being?\u201d Bishop Grigorije said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><mark style=\"background-color:#FFFFFF;color:#d21414\" class=\"has-inline-color\">MORE TOPICS:<\/mark><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/serbiantimes.info\/en\/emotional-address-by-zeljko-obradovic-ostoja-mijailovic-bears-responsibility-for-the-situation-in-partizan-full-video\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">EMOTIONAL ADDRESS BY \u017dELJKO OBRADOVI\u0106: \u201cOstoja Mijailovi\u0107 bears responsibility for the situation in Partizan!\u201d (FULL VIDEO)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/serbiantimes.info\/en\/confession-of-a-serbian-nurse-when-i-moved-to-norway-i-had-no-idea-what-would-befall-us-i-watched-my-children-crying-video\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">CONFESSION OF A SERBIAN NURSE: \u201cWhen I moved to Norway I had no idea what would befall us, I watched my children crying\u201d (VIDEO)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/serbiantimes.info\/en\/brian-pushed-ana-in-a-panic-she-fell-off-the-bed-the-defense-presented-shocking-details-at-the-trial-in-the-case-of-the-murdered-serbian-woman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">\u201cBRIAN PUSHED ANA IN A PANIC, SHE FELL OFF THE BED\u201d: The defense presented shocking details at the trial in the case of the murdered Serbian woman!<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/serbiantimes.info\/en\/prosecutors-office-for-organized-crime-ordered-the-arrest-of-the-minister-selakovic-came-in-front-of-the-building-and-insulted-the-prosecutors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">PROSECUTOR\u2019S OFFICE FOR ORGANIZED CRIME ORDERED THE ARREST OF THE MINISTER: Selakovi\u0107 came in front of the building and insulted the prosecutors!<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/serbiantimes.info\/en\/arrested-serbian-policeman-from-chicago-returned-to-work-radule-bojovic-accused-of-overstaying-his-visa-then-put-on-his-uniform-again-video\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" title=\"\">ARRESTED SERBIAN POLICEMAN FROM CHICAGO RETURNED TO WORK: Radule Bojovi\u0107 accused of overstaying his visa, then put on his uniform again! 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